While the PlayStation 4 may be leading in console sales, Xbox’s Phil Spencer isn’t too worried about it.

In a recent interview with Eurogamer, Spencer discussed the “competition” that many see between the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4. He lauded Sony for their success with the console, but also noted that the Xbox One isn’t exactly doing poorly.

When asked how the Xbox One can catch up to the PS4’s 25 million sales, Spencer said “Honestly, I think it’s about growing Xbox. Sony’s had great success with PlayStation, they’ve earned that success over multiple decades of building a great product. Kudos to them for their market position. All I can do is focus on Xbox, and I love that.”

When asked if he believed Xbox One could catch up to the PS4 in a year or two, Spencer emphasized his focus on the Xbox brand rather than simply comparing sales figures.


“I honestly don’t goal the team on how many units Sony sells,” he said. “I think about what we’re going to do, and how many Xbox customers we have across 360, Xbox One, and Windows–thinking about the combined community of people on Xbox and playing those games, and that number’s never been bigger.”

“We’re growing Xbox year on year, we’re bigger than we were this time in the Xbox 360 generation, so generation over generation we’re in a better spot, year-over-year we’re in a better spot. We’re seeing more people online, more games being sold, more consoles being sold. So generally I feel good about the trajectory we’re on.”

Spencer also assured fans that Microsoft doesn’t have plans to leave the console behind.

“There are ways to sell consoles by losing more money on hardware and building an unnatural business construct that I’d never want to do,” he said. “At the end, when people make a commitment to Xbox and the consoles they buy, the games they buy, they want to know that Microsoft and Xbox is in it for the long run.”

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